Posts by IT Support

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How many Bible studies does it take before brainwashing sets in?

by hubert in

jw
friends

i would like to know how the study starts...... what kind of information is given to the potential new convert when he / she starts studying with j.w.

's., lesson to lesson.. what is taught in the first few "lessons".. when the brainwashing starts to be taught.

how many lessons it takes to convince the student that the w.t.

IT Support

I think itsallgoodnow has it right.

The brainwashing began even before the Bible study started, while the JW's still giving you their 'sermon' and reading Rev 21, and the 'hook' is paradise.

As soon as you start thinking, "It would be really nice if it was true," they've got you. Thereafter, your critical thinking is on hold, you WANT it to be true, so you ignore any doubts you may have had and convince yourself it MUST be true.

After all, look at this neatly dressed, very sincere JW with the nice books with pretty pictures of lions and lambs and baskets of fruit and picnics and a beautiful garden with a lake at the bottom and lots of quotations from the Bible and they're not asking for any money...

After that you're putty in their hands. You've forgotten the old saying: i f it seems too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

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easy to use sex offender national database.. (usa) (just put in zip code)

by candidlynuts in

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IT Support

Hey, it's not working.

I entered zip 11201, and there's no entry for Jarracz...

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Blood- would you/have you given/taken it?

by Crumpet in

since leaving the jws and joining my current company i get asked every six months to give blood.

i've never done it and still feel as if i had an accident i would be very reluctant to have a transfusion.. if its not too personal can i ask what others views are on this and your experiences if any?.

crumpet

IT Support

If it's allowable to receive it (even minor fractions), it must be allowable to give it.

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did snakes have legs

by tijkmo in

questions from readers.

did the serpent lose legs or feet as means of movement as a result of the divine curse recorded at genesis 3:14?.

at genesis 3:14 we are told: "and jehovah god proceeded to say to the serpent: ?because you have done this thing, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild beasts of the field.

IT Support

NeonMadman,

Thanks, that's much clearer!

Is that Quotes' CD you have?

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My Mom is so upset she is skipping meetings!

by Quotes in

jw
friends

i just got off the phone with my mom.

my mom has been a jw since converting in her teens or early 20s; she is now at the age of "senior discount".

a lifetime in the religion, by choice.

IT Support

Quotes,

What viewer are you viewing the file with?

I use IrfanView: it handles tifs (including multi-page) perfectly

Are you... saving in local and then launching another application (preferred method).

Yes.

I tried d/l it again. The first two times it again copied a single-page, 64k version, but thereafter it copied the full file perfectly. Go figure!

Each time I initiated the copy by right-clicking on the link and selecting 'Save target as..'

At any rate, if you are having problems, others likely are having even more probs. I will look at either splitting the file or making it a PDF instead.

I don't know if it's necessary to bother if nobody else has had a problem. It might have been some quirk in my setup. (It was a download problem rather than a viewing problem. I use Maxthon, which is an IE-wrap-around, for maximum IE-compatibility: maybe it was to blame...)

Personally, I prefer tifs. Anyway, aren't they supposed to be far more efficient than pdfs?

Ken

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did snakes have legs

by tijkmo in

questions from readers.

did the serpent lose legs or feet as means of movement as a result of the divine curse recorded at genesis 3:14?.

at genesis 3:14 we are told: "and jehovah god proceeded to say to the serpent: ?because you have done this thing, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild beasts of the field.

IT Support

NeonMadman,

Thanks for the scan.

Were you able to make out sifficient detail to see if the snake had legs?

When I tried enlarging the picture, it became too blurred.

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My Mom is so upset she is skipping meetings!

by Quotes in

jw
friends

i just got off the phone with my mom.

my mom has been a jw since converting in her teens or early 20s; she is now at the age of "senior discount".

a lifetime in the religion, by choice.

IT Support

Quotes,

You referred to the Gravitation and Electric Energy page on your web site. I had a look at it and then tried downloading the tif scan of the pages.

Instead of download 677k, the file was only 71k and consisted of only the Awake! cover page, without any of the article pages.

Just to let you know...

(Edited to add) Well done with your mum, by the way.

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did snakes have legs

by tijkmo in

questions from readers.

did the serpent lose legs or feet as means of movement as a result of the divine curse recorded at genesis 3:14?.

at genesis 3:14 we are told: "and jehovah god proceeded to say to the serpent: ?because you have done this thing, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild beasts of the field.

IT Support

when da ladies ask "is that a nachash in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me"

You mean, like, when they say, "I knew your nachash was big, I knew it was pink, but what's with the eyes and tongue...?"

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War Bonds WW2 Australia

by JW83 in

this information is taken from thesis by peter strawhan, 1984, re jws in australia in ww2.

rees was head of jws in australia, who were banned 1941-43.

jws contributed 10,000 to war bonds from cash accumulated during ban, reported to knorr july 1943. rees: ?of course the fact that we took out the bonds has not been publicized, but we have seen to it that the government officials such as security, army, manpower, etc, know of it.

IT Support

Jayne,

This information is taken from thesis by Peter Strawhan, 1984, re JWs in Australia in WW2.

Is there an online reference for this?

Rees was head of JWs in Australia

Is this Phil Rees?

Strawhan got his information from gov files (AA (SA) AP538/1, SA29378)

Are these online? If not, are you planning on getting a copy of these? If so, would you be able to scan and post them?

Thanks!

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did snakes have legs

by tijkmo in

questions from readers.

did the serpent lose legs or feet as means of movement as a result of the divine curse recorded at genesis 3:14?.

at genesis 3:14 we are told: "and jehovah god proceeded to say to the serpent: ?because you have done this thing, you are the cursed one out of all the domestic animals and out of all the wild beasts of the field.

IT Support

So if you search WT CD for "snakes" and "legs" this doesn't come up?

Though, to be fair to WT (not that they deserve it), if you search for 'serpent' and 'legs,' it does come up...

As an interesting aside, in the NWT, Genesis 3:1 says:

Now the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made.

The Hebrew for serpent is nachash and the definition also includes snake. Although the traditional view is that it was a snake in the tree that spoke to Eve, does anyone know whether nachash might have allowed for another animal, like some kind of lizard, of which some types are also known as serpents and dragons?

I don't suppose anyone has a scan of "New Heavens and a New Earth" (1953) page 81 which has an illustration of Eve and a snake with legs?...

There is an even more dramatic illustration on page 157 of the book "Riches" showing Adam gesturing to a serpent with legs, which apparently also looked like a lizard. And behind Adam and Eve is a contemplative, bat-winged Lucifer standing there in his bare hoofs. Anyone have a scan?

Having said all this, I still don't know of any legless lizards.